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Cew27

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Edit Message Message [#1] posted on: 03-20-2009 03:20 AM CST (US).    View Profile for Cew27   Send PM  to Cew27   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
hey guys, finished casing my cmoy last night and to cut the circular holes i used a drill that was pathetic, it was pretty much the friction that made the hole not the cutting at all, and to make the whole round i used a conical glass polishing tool that i didnt need, obviously that is destroyed now but it worked well and i didnt need it.
but for when i make more i want the proper tools, so i need to bits for my dremel, what do you all use?
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Edit Message Message [#2] posted on: 03-20-2009 03:22 AM CST (US).    View Profile for Fred_Fred   Send PM  to Fred_Fred   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
I use a single hole paper punch, and ream out to size
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[Quoting Fred_Fred]

I use a single hole paper punch, and ream out to size


I second that. For larger holes, I tape over with masking tape, draw out the cut-out. And use the hole punch to nibble away the tin to make the cut-out. Works a lot better than any drilling.

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Edit Message Message [#4] posted on: 03-20-2009 09:36 AM CST (US).    View Profile for Cew27   Send PM  to Cew27   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
could i maybe get a brief description of a reamer and a link to buy one?
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i used a Dremel to cut the holes, but if you want the easy way out, just use pots and jacks that have washer and nuts. That way the ugly hole would be covered up by the washer and nut.

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Cew27

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Edit Message Message [#6] posted on: 03-20-2009 10:47 AM CST (US).    View Profile for Cew27   Send PM  to Cew27   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
already got a dremel mate
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[Quoting a1m80t]

i used a Dremel to cut the holes


alm80t, which dremel tool(s) do you use to cut thru the tin?

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Edit Message Message [#8] posted on: 03-20-2009 02:48 PM CST (US).    View Profile for cmoy   Send PM  to cmoy   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
And is there a way to use the paper punch on the top of the Altoids lid?
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[Quoting Cew27]

could i maybe get a brief description of a reamer and a link to buy one?


I picked up a set of these in B&Q www.diy.com/diy...ELAID=266914431. They've been quite useful for adjusting holes, especially the conical one. Available in the Perth store according to the website.

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[Quoting cmoy]

And is there a way to use the paper punch on the top of the Altoids lid?


I haven't found a way to use the paper punch on the lid I use a 3mm drill and then enlarge with a reamer

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wow that looks poerfect, the rotary file set. will they fit my dremel?
going up to b&q today, just wondering what i will get
i know i am going to get a step drill bit to start the holes
that file set, but is a reamer nessecary aswell?
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If you want to spend some money (less that $20), Harbor Freight has a Hand Punch set (#44060) that includes 7 punches from 3/32 to 9/32 in 1/32 increments. It's very heavy duty... mine goes through Altoids tins with ease. The only drawbacks are: (1) for casework there are only 3 useful sized punches- the rest being too small; and (2) the punches are sized in INCHES not MMs. BTW - HF also has a larger (and more expensive) bench-mountable model that I may try.
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[Quoting sandbasser]

If you want to spend some money (less that $20), Harbor Freight has a Hand Punch set (#44060) that includes 7 punches from 3/32 to 9/32 in 1/32 increments. It's very heavy duty... mine goes through Altoids tins with ease and makes (to the naked eye) perfect holes. The only drawbacks are: (1) for casework there are only 3 useful sized punches- the rest being too small; and (2) the punches are sized in INCHES not MMs. BTW - HF also has a larger (and more expensive) bench-mountable model that I may try.


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[Quoting Cew27]

the rotary file set. will they fit my dremel?


They have a 6mm shank, so possibly not. I use them in a cordless drill. They're not particularly high quality tools, those Bosch rotary files, but they'll deal with an Altoids tin. A proper reamer or step drill is probably OTT for such thin metal. In fact, the very thinness of the mint tin metal makes it quite awkward to deal with IMO. Also, because a reamer is a proper cutting tool, it might remove too much metal too easily, leaving you with too big a hole. The crappier Bosch conical file removes metal more slowly and makes slip-ups less likely.

Fred_Fred's method is a good one, or you could try one of the Black & Decker 'Bullet' drill bits, which centre themselves better and cut flimsy materials like a mint tin more cleanly than a conventional twist drill. It will also help if you can hold a piece of wood behind the metal to prevent it from flexing too much or collapsing while you drill. I started using old tobacco tins bought off eBay to case Cmoys. Solid and slightly easier to work with. And 20% cooler.

[Edited by miles hand on 03-21-2009 at 08:54 PM.]

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Edit Message Message [#15] posted on: 03-21-2009 01:48 PM CST (US).    View Profile for cmoy   Send PM  to cmoy   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!

[Quote]

the rotary file set. will they fit my dremel?


There is a rotary file set for the dremel. Jack's Toolshed has it for about $10. My DRemel kit came with some rotary files. I need to check what's in it.


[Edited by cmoy on 03-21-2009 at 01:49 PM.]


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