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Gautama

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Edit Message Message [#320] posted on: 02-09-2009 09:25 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Gautama   Send PM  to Gautama   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Extremely helpful, as always, X.
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Edit Message Message [#321] posted on: 02-10-2009 06:01 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Gautama   Send PM  to Gautama   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Is this wired correctly for 115v operation? I don't have ground in yet. I'm using the standard Amveco toroid.

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[Edited by Gautama on 02-10-2009 at 07:41 PM.]

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Edit Message Message [#322] posted on: 02-10-2009 06:04 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Gautama   Send PM  to Gautama   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
double post

[Edited by Gautama on 02-10-2009 at 06:05 PM.]

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Edit Message Message [#323] posted on: 02-10-2009 09:57 PM CST (US).    View Profile for amb   Send PM  to amb   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Gautama, yes, the wiring is correct, but I strongly recommend that you use insulated FastOn connectors on the IEC module. Or, heatshrink the solder tabs. Heatshrink the power switch solder tabs too. You should avoid having exposed AC lines like that.
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Edit Message Message [#324] posted on: 02-10-2009 10:00 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Gautama   Send PM  to Gautama   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Will do.
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Edit Message Message [#325] posted on: 02-15-2009 05:57 AM CST (US).    View Profile for jarpatus   Send PM  to jarpatus   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Hi again everybody!

Time to finish my second CKČIII so that I can finally usee parts reserved for it <smile> I was planning to include transformer in the same chassis than pcb but I found out that those miniature toroidal transformers are pretty hard to get here in Finland. On the other hand, local suppliers have tons of small PCB transformes but only up to 6 VA.

So does anybody know if 6 VA transformer (3 VA per winding) is enough for this amp? Initial specifications found from original discussion thread recommends 6 VA trafo, but amb's page specifies 7 VA trafo. I have distant memory that required rating was made higher but I cannot find exact posting from original thread...

Thank you very much in advance again <smile>

Best regards,
Jari

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Edit: Ah, never mind. I think I will order those miniature transformers from Farnell. They are actually not so expensive I initially thought. May as well order bunch of them for future projects <smile>

[Edited by jarpatus on 02-15-2009 at 06:10 AM.]

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Edit Message Message [#326] posted on: 02-28-2009 11:40 AM CST (US).    View Profile for Gautama   Send PM  to Gautama   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
I'm trying to wire ground through the transformer bolt, however solder will not stick to either the bolt or the nut.

Is there a coating on them responsible for this that I could file off?

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Edit Message Message [#327] posted on: 02-28-2009 12:12 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Mister X   Send PM  to Mister X   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
I think it is trying to tell you something.
Actually it is trying to tell you two things.... don't try to solder the wire and find a better spot then the transformer mounting bolt to attach the ring terminal.
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Edit Message Message [#328] posted on: 02-28-2009 11:12 PM CST (US).    View Profile for amb   Send PM  to amb   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
That's right. Don't use the toroid's mounting bolt for grounding. See this post for a discussion.
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Edit Message Message [#329] posted on: 03-01-2009 03:01 AM CST (US).    View Profile for Mister X   Send PM  to Mister X   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!

[Quoting amb]

See this post for a discussion.


Do we have to?
It's pretty bad when someone starts a "help thread" and then argues with everybody that posts a "helpful reply" because he is to stubborn to just accept their advice.
In fact.... that is the best case I have I seen for a forum's ignore feature in a long long time <wink>

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Edit Message Message [#330] posted on: 03-11-2009 03:46 PM CST (US).    View Profile for bastlecs   Send PM  to bastlecs   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Please, how to replace OPA2134 servo opamp in the Kumisa III?
Can be used OP27, or OP275, or some other?
2134 is inaccessible and very expensive.

Thank you very much.

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Edit Message Message [#331] posted on: 03-11-2009 06:44 PM CST (US).    View Profile for amb   Send PM  to amb   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
You should use a dual opamp with JFET inputs that could run on +/-15V rails. A low-noise opamp is preferable, but you should be able to use something cheap like TL072 or LF353.

OP27 is not a dual unit and is not JFET-input. OP275 is dual, but has somewhat high input bias current and would not work as well in a DC servo application.

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Edit Message Message [#332] posted on: 03-12-2009 07:20 AM CST (US).    View Profile for bastlecs   Send PM  to bastlecs   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Thank You.
I made mistake. 2134 is quite accessible. I was looking for confused number.

I attach the attachment. One-sided PCB for economic home made. One channel without suuply. (For better stereo distance - each channel separate supply).


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Edit Message Message [#333] posted on: 03-14-2009 03:03 PM CST (US).    View Profile for rogerjons   Send PM  to rogerjons   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Hi all!

First of all, thanks for a great sounding amp amb! Sounds really good together with my HD650's. I have one slight problem with my amp, if I have both low level inputs (l+r) connected I get a slight 50 Hz hum in my headphones, very subtle on my 650's but louder in my test headphones with higher sensitivity. I have tested some different ways to connect the amp and I found out that if I connect one channel correctly, doesn't matter which one, and attach the other rca connector so that only the signal and not ground get connected then it's noise free and I get sound in both channels. Another test I made was to connect the ground from left and right channel to each other (no signal source connected) then I get the same hum. The hum is independent of the volume control position.

Any idea?
Thanks!

/Roger

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Edit Message Message [#334] posted on: 03-15-2009 03:45 AM CST (US).    View Profile for amb   Send PM  to amb   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
rogerjons, is your amp in a case? How far is the power transformer from the amp board, and what transformer is it?
Describe your grounding scheme -- is AC ground connected to the chassis? Did you tie the ground "hole" on the CKČIII to chassis as well? What is your source and does it have a 3-prong AC plug?
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Edit Message Message [#335] posted on: 03-15-2009 09:49 AM CST (US).    View Profile for rogerjons   Send PM  to rogerjons   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Hi amb!

Yes the amp is in the recommended Hammond case. The transformer is quite close to the board, not very much room to move it away. The transformer is a Noratel AA-021504. The ground from the AC plug is connected to the chassis and the ground hole on the PCB is also connected to the chassis, no ground loop breaker. The source is a Denon 1940 DVD which doesn't have a ground connection but my amp has one. I have a rec out from my amp so I use it as a source selector and I also use the amp's RIAA. I get the same result when I connect the headphone amp directly to the DVD. All equipment is connected to an extension cord with 4 grounded AC outlets. My wall outlet doesn't have a ground connection, I only have that in my kitchen. It's on the to-do list to have grounded outlets in the entire apartment. I tried to connect the ck2III to my grounded outlet and I get the same hum when I attach the 2 signal grounds together.

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Edit Message Message [#336] posted on: 03-15-2009 12:06 PM CST (US).    View Profile for amb   Send PM  to amb   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
rogerjons, sounds to me like transformer interference. I would suggest relocating the transformer into a separate box.
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Edit Message Message [#337] posted on: 03-15-2009 02:59 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Polacchini   Send PM  to Polacchini   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Hi all <smile>

Regarding the output resistors, which of them should I get, metal oxide 0.47 Ohm 5% or metal film 0.5 Ohm 1% (br.mouser.com/S...ey71-CPF1-F-0.5)?

Is there any measurable difference soundwise aside from the stated specs?

Cheers

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Edit Message Message [#338] posted on: 03-15-2009 03:24 PM CST (US).    View Profile for amb   Send PM  to amb   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
I would prefer the metal oxide resistors because of its unique property that when it "blows", it opens up like a fuse rather than shorts out. This may save other parts of the circuit from cascading damage in the event of a malfunction.
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Edit Message Message [#339] posted on: 03-17-2009 02:45 PM CST (US).    View Profile for rogerjons   Send PM  to rogerjons   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Thanks amb, I'll try that a little later and get back...

/Roger

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