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FallenAngel


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Edit Message Message [#60] posted on: 12-06-2006 04:37 PM CST (US).    View Profile for FallenAngel   Send PM  to FallenAngel   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!

[Quoting Prune]

How do I make a BOM? I used Eagle to make the board.


<smile> BOM is a "Bill of Materials", just a list of the components that you used, preferably where you got them and how much they cost as well.

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Edit Message Message [#61] posted on: 12-07-2006 01:16 AM CST (US).    View Profile for Prune   Send PM  to Prune   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
I already posted a schematic earlier in the thread, and that shows the part values. I got about all of them from Digikey. Just get a part value with a package that matches the board. I never wrote up a BOM. The only thing not clear is that one of the 100 uF capacitors is a good deal larger than the others. That's simply because I chose one with higher current rating from the Digikey catalog.
I want to post the Eagle files, but there are lots of files in the project folder, so I don't know if all are needed or just the .sch and .brd ones?
The performance of the regulator is excellent, it's well worth trying. Not useful for high power areas due to the inherent inefficiency of shunt regulation, but for DACs, preamps, and headphone amplifiers, it would be great. I'm using a air for the low voltage section of my KGBH, as well as in the analog part of my DAC.

[Edited by Prune on 12-07-2006 at 01:18 AM.]

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Edit Message Message [#62] posted on: 12-27-2006 06:04 PM CST (US).    View Profile for oldrocker   Send PM  to oldrocker   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
I've built a headphone distribution system for my brothers band using the Headbanger schematic. Each musician gets his own stereo headphone amp clipped to his or her belt or pocket. These things sound great. They do not color the sound in any way. I used plastic cigarette cases for the enclosures and they already have the belt clip built on.
http://www.minidisc.org/schem.gif
http://www.logmo...7-422-13730.jpg
http://www.logm...2-422-14349.jpg
http://www.logm...3-422-14348.jpg
http://www.logm...3-422-14346.jpg
http://www.logm...2-422-14345.jpg
http://www.logm...7-422-14344.jpg
http://www.logm...0-422-14342.jpg

[Edited by oldrocker on 12-27-2006 at 06:07 PM.]

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Edit Message Message [#63] posted on: 02-01-2007 12:53 AM CST (US).    View Profile for wlai   Send PM  to wlai   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Great list! Just want to share a couple updates for the list:

* Looks like the Millet Hybrid PCB are sold out
* Alien DAC Group Buy is over

Thanks for maintaining this

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Edit Message Message [#64] posted on: 02-01-2007 12:54 AM CST (US).    View Profile for wlai   Send PM  to wlai   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
To be clear, the Millet Hybrid PCB at diycable.com is sold out
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Edit Message Message [#70] posted on: 03-02-2007 09:28 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Prune   Send PM  to Prune   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
What the f*ck are you doing? Why are you posting "MESSAGE", "MESSAGE",...
I'm subscribed to this thread and I don't like getting a reply alert email and coming here just to see some garbage has been posted!
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Edit Message Message [#71] posted on: 03-03-2007 04:32 PM CST (US).    View Profile for jessyhalm   Send PM  to jessyhalm   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Prune, apologies, dude! I was practicing replying.
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Edit Message Message [#72] posted on: 03-09-2007 01:34 AM CST (US).    View Profile for Prune   Send PM  to Prune   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
For those also at the other headphone forum, sorry for crossposting.

Shunt superregulator is discussed at this diyhifi thread. Schematic is on there, as well as here. Download for the CAD files is here. If you're modifying the layout, keep the 100 nF cap close to the opamp supply pin, and the largest 100 uF 35 V not too far. The error signal is taken from the output for obvious reasons. Poor layout will decrease performance of the shunt regulator. It's good to add a snubberized cap at the output, say 220 uF with 0.33 ohms, then un-snubberized cap at the load side (maybe bypassed with a film cap). If load does not draw constant current (not class A), omit these capacitors and have the regulator right by its load.

Notes about those Eagle files: one of the 100 uF 35 V capacitors is larger than the others. Why? Higher ripple current rating. The multiturn trimpot on the CCS is not surface mount like the one on the regulator, simply because I had the right value lying around. The diode and two power resistors in the CCS by this pot, making this differ from the original schematic, are there to decrease dissipation for the higher current I want available, so that the pot drops much less voltage. Make sure you adjust these parts for whatever maximum current you expect through it. A trimpot generally can't dissipate much power. Don't forget that the diode's forward drop is not constant but tends to be a good deal lower when running at a small fraction of its maximum current.
For specific part numbers, if you're building a copy (should be customizing really), I can probably check my previous digikey order, where I got most of the parts.

[Edited by Prune on 03-09-2007 at 01:37 AM.]

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Edit Message Message [#73] posted on: 03-09-2007 01:19 PM CST (US).    View Profile for JCD   Send PM  to JCD   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Prune:
I've added a new category for "Shunt Regulator" and linked it to the thread at diyhifi. Didn't have time to go through the 12(!) pages of posts, so could you maybe fill in with a part cost and maybe something that should be put in the General Comments column?

Thanks.

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Edit Message Message [#74] posted on: 03-09-2007 02:56 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Prune   Send PM  to Prune   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Added it where?

As for cost, it's not good to make just one since ordering surface mount parts at Digikey usually means you need to order five or ten at a time. I built four regulators, and for that, looking at my last Digikey order, I'd say about a dozen US dollars per regulator, roughly.

The majority of actual parts used are a subset of this Digikey order: http://cl1p.net/dgko/

Comment? Shunt regulators isolate the power supply and load AC current loops very well, and this particular design is well optimized.

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Edit Message Message [#75] posted on: 05-11-2007 03:20 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Jammin72   Send PM  to Jammin72   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Thanks for compiling this!
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Edit Message Message [#76] posted on: 05-11-2007 03:33 PM CST (US).    View Profile for peranders   Send PM  to peranders   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
The shunt regulator can be found here:

http://www.mnen...tregulator.html

I have also a couple of regulators/power supplies. Every headphone amplifier of mine have power supplies on the board but my stand alone PS may also be of interest.

[Edited by peranders on 05-11-2007 at 05:04 PM.]

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Edit Message Message [#77] posted on: 05-11-2007 04:22 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Prune   Send PM  to Prune   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
You should have an output impedance vs frequency graph. Also, I hope you remembered on your PCB the output capacitor should be very close to the opamp supply pins.
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Edit Message Message [#78] posted on: 05-11-2007 04:24 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Prune   Send PM  to Prune   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!

[Quoting Prune]

You should have an output impedance vs frequency graph. Generally a low ESR capacitor in the output will cause a resonance peak that is easy to miss in measuring just a few discrete frequencies. A simple passive network can remove any peaks (http://www.calex.com/pdf/3power_impedance.pdf)

Also, I hope you remembered on your PCB the output capacitor should be very close to the opamp supply pins.

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Edit Message Message [#79] posted on: 05-11-2007 04:25 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Prune   Send PM  to Prune   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
You should have an output impedance vs frequency graph. Generally a low ESR capacitor in the output will cause a resonance peak that is easy to miss in measuring just a few discrete frequencies. A simple passive network can remove any peaks (http://www.calex.com/pdf/3power_impedance.pdf)

Also, I hope you remembered on your PCB the output capacitor should be very close to the opamp supply pins.

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Edit Message Message [#80] posted on: 06-27-2007 04:03 PM CST (US).    View Profile for jcd   Send PM  to jcd   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Just updated the Alien DAC (finally) entry and added Mini 3 v2 project development. Have I missed anything? I haven't checked in for a while.

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