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runeight



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Edit Message Message [#1] posted on: 08-06-2005 12:21 PM CST (US).    View Profile for runeight   Send PM  to runeight   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Well, headphone amp design has made another leap forward!!

In a previous post several of us have described the CL MK I amplifier. Batman built this amp and there are now several other headwizers in process of building it.

The team of mains_hum, batman, and runeight still wanted to improve on the MK I in several ways: 1) to remove the complexity of tube regulators, 2) to use the better differential input/feedback input stage, 3) to supply a slow start solid state power supply, and 4) to use constant current sources on the input stages.

One other goal was to use only one power transformer with a single high voltage secondary and one heater secondary. To supply the input stage with its required negative bias, we used a standard back bias technique in the PS to create a -15V supply.

This new amp has been built by mains_hum, Steve Culton, and jwags. They will be posting pics and listening experiences following this post.

mains_hum built a slight variation on the amp which includes special lighting effect and BJT CCSs (instead of Mosfets). Diagrams for both amps are at the following links:

Standard CL MK II

Mains_hum CL MK II Special

This project was great fun to work on, especially collaborating with the rest of the team to work out this design and to hear their descriptions of how the amp sounds. Let us know what you think!!!!

[Edited by runeight on 09-13-2005 at 03:36 AM.]

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Edit Message Message [#2] posted on: 08-06-2005 12:43 PM CST (US).    View Profile for mains_hum   Send PM  to mains_hum   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
As you will see shortly, there are three of these amps that have been built so far.
Each is quite different from the other to look at, yet all sound very good.

This one

CL mkII powered
CL mkII underside

is slightly frivolous in having blue LEDs added just for fun.
The valves themselves can be lit blue, but the picture shows how it normally looks i.e. just a power indicator and the knobs lit.

Also, this version uses ordinary transistors rather than FETs for the CCS just to show that BJTs can be used to good effect.


What really matters though is, how does it sound ?
In simple terms, very good indeed.
Replacing the hollow state regulator as seen in the mkI with a FET version really seems to "tighten up" the sound.... not that it was bad in the first place.
Bass is very controlled yet full on when it should be.
Treble is clean yet sweet.

I'm a fan of Sennheiser headphones, and I've auditioned this amp with my HD-600 (300Ω), along with HX-100 (32Ω) portables and MX-500 (32Ω) ear buds.
OK, so using streetware headphones with a valve amp is a slightly strange thing to do but the amp really shows what these cheap headphones can do when given a chance.
And of course, the HD-600 are magic.

Overall, this amp is closer still to a BCJ but considerably easier to build.
And our biggest collaboration yet to ensure it really works !!!

Just for fun, here's what's the amp looks like with all LEDs lit
everything lit
I leave it to you to decide whether it's worth doing or not.
Some folk liked this, others didn't.
Hence the (not shown) switch to leave the valves "normal", yet in a darkened room ....

[Edited by mains_hum on 08-06-2005 at 01:33 PM.]

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Edit Message Message [#3] posted on: 08-06-2005 03:33 PM CST (US).    View Profile for jwags818   Send PM  to jwags818   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
First off, I must Thank mains_hum, runeight, and Batman for the immense amount of help and question answering they endured from me during this project. This is the first electronic thing I have ever built. I am an engineer and a machinist of 18 years so I do have some pretty solid technical background. But it still would never have happened without these three guys and their never ending patience and skill.
The chassis was the only thing I designed myself, and even then Batman did the layout for me. As well as some excellent documentation for everything else.

So.......... THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is a link to some pics. The copper plate looks alot better in person as the lighting made every spec of dust look like a crater.

bottom view
front view
rear view

Now on to the details..
The build itself went very well as the instructions and documentation was very good. These guys really did a fantastic job making this easy to build. I had two small wiring errors that I was able to chase down without anything going up in smoke. Once fixed everything worked like a champ.
This is my first tube amp. And my first quality headphone setup.
My system is:

Sennheiser HD600s
NAD 542 cd player
And then of course the MK2

Prior to my amp being built I was using a Carver C1 preamp to run my headphones and I thought it hard to imagine it sounding any better than it already did.
Boy was I wrong!!!!

First off the amp is dead dead dead quiet. We are talking so quiet I thought it wasn't working when I first powered it up. Even full volume produces ZERO buzz or hum.

I listen mostly to acoustic music. Pop Piano and classical for the most part. And I have to say this is the best sounding system I have ever heard. Bar none. Nothing even comes close.
The realism and 3d image produced my this amp is nothing short of fantastic. Cymbals sound like vibrating disc of metal as opposed to a frying pan. Cello strings resonate and sound so real you would swear the cellist was standing in front of you.
The amp has more power than I would ever use and the dynamic range has to be heard to be believed. Mozarts "A little night music" in G major at the intro with the screaming violins has such power and realism it gives me goosebumps, even after I know to expect it.
I am not a super experienced audiophile. So they may be other headphone amps out there that approach this level of performance. But I have yet to hear them.
I know this review sounds a little over the top but I am being honest here. This amp is incredible. Hats off to the designers!!

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Edit Message Message [#4] posted on: 08-07-2005 01:45 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Steve Culton   Send PM  to Steve Culton   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
* href="http://mysite.verizon.net/vze22yzp/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Steves_CL_MkII_2.JPG">Steve's
CL MKII
*

So this is my CL Mk II. Some contruction notes:

I took my sweet time on this; I actually began in January. My design is based on the Bottlehead amps which make up the rest of my system. I started with an aluminum chassis plate, polished with a wire wheel, then drilled and cut holes, fisnishing with several coats of gloss lacquer. The tranny bell had to be stripped and polished before it too received a coat of the lacquer. It also has semi gloss black on the sides. The base is maple and has a nine layer hand-rubbed finish. Built the power supply first, then promptly blew it up by wiring a FET backwards. (I highly recommend to anyone building this that you build the PS first; makes it easier to find wiring errors.) After getting the PS right, I completed the circuit part. Well, not really as I wired my CCS boards wrong. While trying to figure THAT out I blew another FET. Jeff came to my rescue with some CCS boards he built, and we finally got this sucker working.

OK, how's it sound? (Like I'm going to say, "uh, it's OK"...) For starters, it's dead balls quiet. It's definitely better than the Cavalli Jones: better, tighter, bass; bigger soundstage; more details revealed. And the tube sound...this is what good audio is all about! I'm currently running it with my TT into my Bottlehead Seduction phono stage, and it kicks some serious burro. Using TungSol Black Plates and gold pin Amperex PQ 6922s. The sound is just fantastic.

Hats off to mains and runeight and Batman for their design/layout/construction help. As usual, if it weren't for them, I wouldn't have been able to build this.

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Edit Message Message [#5] posted on: 08-07-2005 01:47 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Steve Culton   Send PM  to Steve Culton   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Let's try this for an amp picture:

http://mysite.ve..._CL_MkII_2.JPG"

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Edit Message Message [#6] posted on: 08-07-2005 01:48 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Steve Culton   Send PM  to Steve Culton   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
I give up.
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Edit Message Message [#7] posted on: 08-07-2005 01:54 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Steve Culton   Send PM  to Steve Culton   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Finally?

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Edit Message Message [#8] posted on: 08-07-2005 04:16 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Batman   Send PM  to Batman   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Each of these amps is unique and highlights the skills of each of the builders. I can't decide on a favorite cause they're all stellar. Great jobs, guys <cool> It was a whole lot of fun watching these amps come to life.

To help Steve and jwags818 with the construction, we made three-layer pictoral drawings of the wiring. Each layer of the drawing shows the wiring of a different section of the amp. To see one page, click HERE We've also created a list of parts with part numbers from the usual American suppliers. Some of the circuits of the amp are built on perf boards to simplify constrution. We made drawings of these circuit boards to assist with their construction. What was the most fun was making a dimensioned drawing of the chassis mechanical layout and watching jwgs818 bring it to life with CNC machinery.

To help those who may be interested in building the conventional version, I've assembled a zip file that contains the pictoral wiring guide,drawings of the ciruit boards, the parts list and the dimensioned chassis. This file can be downloaded from HERE Note that the pictoral drawings are "printed" on pdf "paper" that is 17x 22 inches. One can zoom the drawings 200% and see the fine detail of the wiring of any part. I also have a pictoral drawing for Steve's Bottlehead layout if anyone is interested in that.

[Edited by Batman on 08-07-2005 at 04:35 PM.]

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Edit Message Message [#9] posted on: 08-09-2005 11:31 PM CST (US).    View Profile for mikey   Send PM  to mikey   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
whoa!! these amps are gorgeous! <smile> love the woodwork. jwags did you craft your own volume knobs?
indeed inspiring - congrats <smile>
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Edit Message Message [#10] posted on: 08-10-2005 09:23 AM CST (US).    View Profile for jwags818   Send PM  to jwags818   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Yes..The chassis is about the only thing I did design. The wood is black walnut and the metal is copper sheet. I work at a machine shop so I have access to alot of cool machines. I need to redo the clearcoat on the front panel with something harder as the stuff I used did not hold up well and it ia already scratched and oxidizing in a few spots. But the top plate is holding up fine.

Jeff

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Edit Message Message [#11] posted on: 09-09-2005 09:53 AM CST (US).    View Profile for Steve Culton   Send PM  to Steve Culton   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Just in case you missed it on your summer vacation, I wanted to repost this to the top of the topic foodchain.
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Edit Message Message [#12] posted on: 09-09-2005 11:47 AM CST (US).    View Profile for jwags818   Send PM  to jwags818   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
I wanted to post again just to get the attention of anyone researching a headphone amp to build.
I do not believe you will find a better sounding headphone amp no matter how much you spend building it. This amp performs better than I am able to convey in words.
The power and speed give it effortless sound with incredible tonal accuracy. Dynamic range is only limited by the source. And you have never heard symphonies with such realistic power and detail unless you were sitting in the front row.
I STRONGLY urge anyone looking for a desktop headphone amp to give this baby serious consideration.
Every aspect of this design was carefully thought out and tested, revised and retested.
Accurate regulated power supply
Fast accurate CCS
Slow Start Circuit
OTL design for accurate tonal reproduction
Negative Feedback Pot to adjust for different Impedance cans.

I can't think of anything else these guys could have added to this amp to make it any better. I did add a stepped attenuator here recently and another level of focus was achieved. But it was great before I added this. Now it is even better.
Thanks again to Rune Eight and Mains Hum and Batman for an incredible design. I listen to my amp 40+ hours a week.
It is the first thing I turn on when I get to work in the morning and last thing I turn off on my way out the door.
Worth every penny I paid to build it and then some.

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Edit Message Message [#13] posted on: 09-09-2005 12:29 PM CST (US).    View Profile for Steve Culton   Send PM  to Steve Culton   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
But Jeff, how do you REALLY feel about your amp?...

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Edit Message Message [#14] posted on: 09-10-2005 09:53 PM CST (US).    View Profile for PRR   Send PM  to PRR   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Not to interrupt the joy, but: surely the power supply could be ~33% simpler?


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Edit Message Message [#15] posted on: 09-13-2005 07:51 AM CST (US).    View Profile for akino   Send PM  to akino   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
I just finished building the BB otl. It sounds pretty good, but I'm on a roll and have some parts on hand. I would like to give this version a go. All of these look awesome btw.
I have an older transfomer, but it is rated 350-0-350 @ 55ma and 6.3v @ 2.5a
Do you think this would work?
Thanks,
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Edit Message Message [#16] posted on: 09-14-2005 05:21 AM CST (US).    View Profile for adhoc   Send PM  to adhoc   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
has anyone compared this to a CL mk1?

Batman, btw I'm still in the process of procuring parts (75% complete now) for a mk1. ;)

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Edit Message Message [#17] posted on: 09-14-2005 09:54 AM CST (US).    View Profile for jwags818   Send PM  to jwags818   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
I was in the same boat as you when I first met these guys. I was asking about building an MK1 and they talked me into building an MK2. I think most of the parts are the same.
If I was in your position I would certainly build the MK2. Unless you have bought some expensive parts that won't be used in the mk2.
I can't tell you the difference as I have not heard an MK1. But I can tell you that you will in no way be disappointed with an MK2. It really is THAT GOOD!
Simply amazing...

Jeff

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Edit Message Message [#18] posted on: 10-09-2005 05:15 PM CST (US).    View Profile for runeight   Send PM  to runeight   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
PRR's suggested change to the PS makes it simpler with less components. And it has just about as low a ripple at the output of the regulator.

The only change is that that pass mosfet will dissipate a little more than twice the power as before. It will need a good heatsink to relieve it of the 10W that it must shed. The error mosfet will dissipate about 600mW and will need a small heatsink.

[Edited by runeight on 10-09-2005 at 07:41 PM.]

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Edit Message Message [#19] posted on: 10-18-2005 09:59 AM CST (US).    View Profile for Mikey4   Send PM  to Mikey4   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
To reduce the heat load using the simplified single stage voltage regulator how about using a transformer with a lower secondary voltage such as the Hammond 260E (225-0-225). If you think this would work would any other circuit changes be required? Is anything to be gained by using DC on the filaments?
Thanks...Mike
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Edit Message Message [#20] posted on: 10-30-2005 12:19 AM CST (US).    View Profile for adhoc   Send PM  to adhoc   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
"Is anything to be gained by using DC on the filaments?"

well for starters you'd cut down on the likelihood of having AC-induced hum straightaway.

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Edit Message Message [#21] posted on: 10-30-2005 08:39 AM CST (US).    View Profile for mains_hum   Send PM  to mains_hum   |  Quote Message in Reply  |  Report SPAM!
Akino
I have an older transfomer, but it is rated 350-0-350 @ 55ma and 6.3v @ 2.5a
Sad to say no. You would need to drop a lot of volts and it doesn't supply enough current for the HT or the filament supplies.

"Is anything to be gained by using DC on the filaments?"
Possibly.
But ....
If you twist the cable pair and lay them flat to the (earthed) top plate all should be well.
Thus far no one has needed to use DC 6.3V for this amp, which is deliberate to avoid rectifying and smoothing 3.5A with the complication and expense that it adds.
By all means try, and post the results .. that's what DIY is all about ... could be a CL mkIIa <smile>

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