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| blr Joined: N/A |  Message [#40] posted on: 05-09-2001 05:19 AM CST (US).   |  |  I enjoy this topic. One thing we haven't touch so much upon is partnering equipment. IMO that's why one can hear so different opinions on the Grados and Senns. The amp is only part of the story. How about the CDP? Different players can sound very different. Some of them sound plain harsh and fatiguing others are smooth and neutral. How about cables? My point is that we cannot evaluate headphones regardless of what they're connected to. I agree that differences in headphone sound are perhaps bigger than differences between similarly priced sources but we all have different ones, ranging from portables to 1000+ dollars high end. An then finally the ultimate truth is that it's a matter of taste. We are talking about the best dynamic headphones here. When you go that high good and bad sounding become somewhat irrelevant. |
| JohnActon Joined: N/A | Message [#41] posted on: 05-09-2001 07:55 PM CST (US). | | Excellent, excellent post, BLR! |
| Brock_Landers Joined: N/A | Message [#42] posted on: 05-09-2001 08:44 PM CST (US). | | Doh! They closed the other thread! I was gonna get a pair of IXOS DJ1001 headphones after reading a review on it in IGN.com. The reviewer was practically wetting his pants over it. He claims it has perfect mids and gave it all your typical audiophile praise. I am now having serious doubts about getting it after reading ai_gods review. It doesn't help that the place I'm ordering from (accessories4less.com) refused my credit card and hasn't gotten my money order (its been 9 days) I'm thinking about spending the extra dough for the Senn HD600s. Can someone tell me how much leakage it has? One of the main reasons I initially went for the IXOS was because it was a closed-type pair of cans. PS Are the Senn HD600s still $205 USD here? |
| jaghouse Joined: N/A | Message [#43] posted on: 05-09-2001 08:47 PM CST (US). | | yeah... I have now realized how subjective audio can be... given the vast number of equipment combinations and differing opinions/tastes. Forums like this can be much more benificial than Stereophile, StereoReview, Absolute sound etc... |
| Raymond Joined: N/A | Message [#44] posted on: 05-14-2001 12:48 PM CST (US). | | A tip of the hat to you, MacDEF for your comment about untutored listeners. It puts me in mind of the continuing and amazing phenomenon of Bose loudspeakers - you will find few audiophiles who take them seriously, but Bose does move them to the masses. Kudos to Bose's marketing, brickbats to their engineering. Open one up and you'll see what I mean. I have the 600s and am as opinionated as anyone. That said, I'll admit to the excellence of the Grado, Stax ( used to have In any case, it's refreshing to see the nature of the debates here stay reasonably civil. If you want to see the antithesis of Socratic discourse, have a look at Audio Review or, sometimes, sad to say, Audiogon. Why people whose opinions differ from yours or mine have to be vilified by the opposition just escapes me. Am learning a lot here and am grateful for the bank of knowledge freely shared. Peace from a non-flower child...... |
joelongwood Headphone Council Joined: Mar. 5, 2001 | Message [#45] posted on: 05-14-2001 01:51 PM CST (US). | | Raymond, I like your style. Thank you for your eloquently worded input. Peace......from a flower child.  |
| Odeen HeadWize Fanatic Joined: Dec. 27, 2000 | Message [#46] posted on: 05-14-2001 02:13 PM CST (US). | | Brock: The HD600's leak. A lot. Because they're well, open, whereas the Ixos are closed. But they sound heavenly. The price is $226 now. |
| rubin HeadWizer Joined: Jun. 23, 2000 | Message [#47] posted on: 05-14-2001 02:55 PM CST (US). | | I just got my 600 today. I love them so much. I really don't understand the negative comments about them. They so accurately reveal differences in equipment and recordings, etc. I will be an idiot and post another review of these phones soon, even though that is pointless at this point. There are so many reviews of these things! |
| joelongwood Headphone Council Joined: Mar. 5, 2001 | Message [#48] posted on: 05-14-2001 03:30 PM CST (US). | | rubin, I'm glad you're happy with your new 'phones. Please don't think that just because there are so many reviews of these Senns that your's would be "pointless." Besides the really nice people on this site, the thing that makes this a useful and interesting place to be is the diverse views on the same products. It's amazing how differently humans hear things. Make sure you post your review after you've had a chance to listen. |
| Raymond Headphone Council Joined: N/A | Message [#49] posted on: 05-14-2001 05:49 PM CST (US). | | Joe, Thanks for the kind words. Glad to state opinions (those who know me say I'm all too glad to expatiate). Are you still using the Creek or did you swap it out? Saw a couple of your posts, one of which seemed to suggest you were going to trade for something else. I ask because my two current contenders are the Creek OBH-11 SE (all the extra goodies) and the Corda. Sent Jan an e-mail today and already received a reply. Kind of impressive.... Anyway, if you're still using the little beastie, is it behaving for you? Pace. |
| MacDEF Headphone Council Joined: N/A | Message [#50] posted on: 05-14-2001 07:19 PM CST (US). | | Raymond, be sure to keep the X-CANSv2 in mind. I'm sure you can still find one and they are a great match for the 600s. |
| squirt Headphone Council Joined: N/A | Message [#51] posted on: 05-14-2001 07:41 PM CST (US). | | i consider the HD600 to be the most "user friendly" of all headphones both in sound quality and comfort i've ever used so far. certainly its not perfect but i prefer it to any other headphone in some types of music...till the perfect headphone is created... |
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